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	<title>Comments on: For those of you who can&#8217;t make music</title>
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		<title>By: Helco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The source says the application stands under GPL, but which license do the music files generated with this application have?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The source says the application stands under GPL, but which license do the music files generated with this application have?</p>
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		<title>By: intripoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>intripoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For everyone wondering about this as well: The script doesn&#039;t work with python 3.x.x. After installing 2.7.3, it worked. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For everyone wondering about this as well: The script doesn&#8217;t work with python 3.x.x. After installing 2.7.3, it worked. <img src='http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: intripoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>intripoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could somebody please explain how to use this? I tried running it from a cmd prompt but I only get an error message:

M:\downloads&gt;atrk-c-edit.py
  File &quot;M:\downloads\atrk-c-edit.py&quot;, line 585
    print &quot;rep&quot;, self.pat_chorus_base, self.pat_chorus_ord, len(self.orders)
              ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could somebody please explain how to use this? I tried running it from a cmd prompt but I only get an error message:</p>
<p>M:\downloads&gt;atrk-c-edit.py<br />
  File &#8220;M:\downloads\atrk-c-edit.py&#8221;, line 585<br />
    print &#8220;rep&#8221;, self.pat_chorus_base, self.pat_chorus_ord, len(self.orders)<br />
              ^<br />
SyntaxError: invalid syntax</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For anyone who&#039;s wondering, VLC (open source video and audio player) will play these files. And convert them to MP3, etc :-) (To convert to MP3, use the Streaming/Export wizard, transcode audio to MP3, encapsulate as RAW, then rename file to .mp3 when done.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone who&#8217;s wondering, VLC (open source video and audio player) will play these files. And convert them to MP3, etc <img src='http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  (To convert to MP3, use the Streaming/Export wizard, transcode audio to MP3, encapsulate as RAW, then rename file to .mp3 when done.)</p>
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		<title>By: thristhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>thristhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 04:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Open the .it file in a tracker program - I&#039;ve been using Schism Tracker (linked in the OP) to great effect. From there, convert to wav, and then from wav to mid using the method of your choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open the .it file in a tracker program &#8211; I&#8217;ve been using Schism Tracker (linked in the OP) to great effect. From there, convert to wav, and then from wav to mid using the method of your choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Fenyx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fenyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 01:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How would you convert the .it files to .mid? I want to use this with Game Maker, but... it doesn&#039;t support .it music files... D:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would you convert the .it files to .mid? I want to use this with Game Maker, but&#8230; it doesn&#8217;t support .it music files&#8230; D:</p>
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		<title>By: thristhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>thristhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 02:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was not expecting that to make such moving song. Why is this so awesome? D:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not expecting that to make such moving song. Why is this so awesome? D:</p>
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		<title>By: GreaseMonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreaseMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 23:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alternatively, try changing the base speed in the .py file.
Look for this line:
fp.write(struct.pack(&quot;&lt;BBBBBB&quot;,128,48,4,125,128,0))

The 125 is where the speed is. If you change that to a lower number, it should be slower.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternatively, try changing the base speed in the .py file.<br />
Look for this line:<br />
fp.write(struct.pack(&#8220;&lt;BBBBBB&quot;,128,48,4,125,128,0))</p>
<p>The 125 is where the speed is. If you change that to a lower number, it should be slower.</p>
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		<title>By: GreaseMonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreaseMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 23:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@elbowroom: Get an .it based tracker such as SchismTracker,  then edit the speed (F9 to load, F12 for the speed settings, F5 to play, F8 to stop, F10 to save).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@elbowroom: Get an .it based tracker such as SchismTracker,  then edit the speed (F9 to load, F12 for the speed settings, F5 to play, F8 to stop, F10 to save).</p>
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		<title>By: elbowroom</title>
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		<dc:creator>elbowroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It keeps making cool music! 
How can I customize the output?

I want it to make a slow song :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It keeps making cool music!<br />
How can I customize the output?</p>
<p>I want it to make a slow song <img src='http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ExciteMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExciteMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 15:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is pretty sweet!  I&#039;m seeing if I can quickly combine this with http://www.photonstorm.com/flod so that I don&#039;t have to convert to mp3 first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty sweet!  I&#8217;m seeing if I can quickly combine this with <a href="http://www.photonstorm.com/flod" rel="nofollow">http://www.photonstorm.com/flod</a> so that I don&#8217;t have to convert to mp3 first.</p>
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		<title>By: GreaseMonkey</title>
		<link>http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/2010/12/14/for-those-of-you-who-cant-make-music/comment-page-1/#comment-18013</link>
		<dc:creator>GreaseMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems to be an issue when I make something that makes .it files. I think OpenMPT expects MIDI macro information after all the pointers, which is something I don&#039;t shove in because it&#039;s not documented. IIRC you just do 01 00 00 00 00 00 or something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to be an issue when I make something that makes .it files. I think OpenMPT expects MIDI macro information after all the pointers, which is something I don&#8217;t shove in because it&#8217;s not documented. IIRC you just do 01 00 00 00 00 00 or something.</p>
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		<title>By: RunnerPack</title>
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		<dc:creator>RunnerPack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*facepalm* I didn&#039;t even notice that :P

I think the samples are pretty good, actually.

This is totally the &quot;sfxr&quot; of bg music! I&#039;ve already heard it make perfectly recognizable &quot;boss fight&quot;, &quot;shmup&quot;, and &quot;title screen&quot; songs! You rock, GreaseMonkey!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*facepalm* I didn&#8217;t even notice that <img src='http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think the samples are pretty good, actually.</p>
<p>This is totally the &#8220;sfxr&#8221; of bg music! I&#8217;ve already heard it make perfectly recognizable &#8220;boss fight&#8221;, &#8220;shmup&#8221;, and &#8220;title screen&#8221; songs! You rock, GreaseMonkey!</p>
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		<title>By: RunnerPack</title>
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		<dc:creator>RunnerPack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I figured it out... For some reason, OpenMPT doesn&#039;t like the files. They open fine in SchismTracker (once I learned how to add samples the DOS way ;) But, if you could get OpenMPT and figure out how to get the songs to load in it, I&#039;d be very grateful.

I really like the output, even with unoptimized samples! It&#039;ll definitely get me on my way making music that doesn&#039;t cause ears to bleed ;D Thanks for sharing!

BTW, they seem to use more than the six samples you list above; more like ten or twelve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I figured it out&#8230; For some reason, OpenMPT doesn&#8217;t like the files. They open fine in SchismTracker (once I learned how to add samples the DOS way <img src='http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  But, if you could get OpenMPT and figure out how to get the songs to load in it, I&#8217;d be very grateful.</p>
<p>I really like the output, even with unoptimized samples! It&#8217;ll definitely get me on my way making music that doesn&#8217;t cause ears to bleed ;D Thanks for sharing!</p>
<p>BTW, they seem to use more than the six samples you list above; more like ten or twelve.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Wenge-Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Wenge-Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He DID edit that in though, is what I&#039;m saying :)

&quot;EDIT: Here’s a version which does minor scales every now and then and generates its own (not very good) samples.&quot;

Here&#039;s some examples, if anyone who can&#039;t get it running is curious what they&#039;re missing:

http://billy.wenge-murphy.com/module1.ogg
http://billy.wenge-murphy.com/module2.ogg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He DID edit that in though, is what I&#8217;m saying <img src='http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;EDIT: Here’s a version which does minor scales every now and then and generates its own (not very good) samples.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some examples, if anyone who can&#8217;t get it running is curious what they&#8217;re missing:</p>
<p><a href="http://billy.wenge-murphy.com/module1.ogg" rel="nofollow">http://billy.wenge-murphy.com/module1.ogg</a><br />
<a href="http://billy.wenge-murphy.com/module2.ogg" rel="nofollow">http://billy.wenge-murphy.com/module2.ogg</a></p>
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		<title>By: RunnerPack</title>
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		<dc:creator>RunnerPack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I second the request for including samples. Even if you don&#039;t actually load data from files, some simple, procedural &quot;chiptune&quot; ones would be handy (square, triangle, sine, etc.).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the request for including samples. Even if you don&#8217;t actually load data from files, some simple, procedural &#8220;chiptune&#8221; ones would be handy (square, triangle, sine, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: RunnerPack</title>
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		<dc:creator>RunnerPack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5754740/dump-c.it

(Note: straight from the script--I didn&#039;t add samples.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5754740/dump-c.it" rel="nofollow">https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5754740/dump-c.it</a></p>
<p>(Note: straight from the script&#8211;I didn&#8217;t add samples.)</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Wenge-Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Wenge-Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the edit. Much easier for the lazy when it puts the samples in for you ;) The tracks sound great.
I&#039;ll have to do a few dozen to see how much variation there is, but I&#039;m really impressed! Definitely gonna use this for my entry as I have NO musical aptitude, lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the edit. Much easier for the lazy when it puts the samples in for you <img src='http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  The tracks sound great.<br />
I&#8217;ll have to do a few dozen to see how much variation there is, but I&#8217;m really impressed! Definitely gonna use this for my entry as I have NO musical aptitude, lol</p>
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		<title>By: GreaseMonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreaseMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...OK, that&#039;s just weird. Could you please upload the original file somewhere (or generate another)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;OK, that&#8217;s just weird. Could you please upload the original file somewhere (or generate another)?</p>
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		<title>By: RunnerPack</title>
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		<dc:creator>RunnerPack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 07:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, I put in some samples, but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that it&#039;s looping after a couple of notes in the first pattern; sometimes it loops on the second or third tick before any notes play at all. Could you point out where it chooses the effect so I can just prevent it from putting in loops and pattern breaks entirely?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I put in some samples, but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that it&#8217;s looping after a couple of notes in the first pattern; sometimes it loops on the second or third tick before any notes play at all. Could you point out where it chooses the effect so I can just prevent it from putting in loops and pattern breaks entirely?</p>
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